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		<title>Comment on The Precision of Thought by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.olinpatterson.com/precision-thought/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this Isaac! So excited, and thanks for taking the time... ok, give me some time to sift through this and get back at you! xxop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this Isaac! So excited, and thanks for taking the time&#8230; ok, give me some time to sift through this and get back at you! xxop</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Precision of Thought by Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;ve actually brushed up against two competing philosophies of mathematics here. When you say: &quot;Mathematics prove the world and the universe we live in to be precise&quot; you&#039;re coming close to the Platonic notion of mathematics, in which numbers, and other mathematical concepts exist in some sense as real truths, and our own mathematics simply connects with those truths and their power derives from the fact that they operate in a space that is fundamentally connected to the way the universe operates.

The flip-side to this view of mathematics, which you&#039;re closer to when you say &quot;Math has always been and will continue to always be a method to how we perceive the world and how we perceive our place in the world.&quot; Is that math is simply a construct built on top of what we see, and mathematics is merely the most formal attempt to apply structure to what is a fundamentally unstructured world. In this view, math is seen as not existing in any sense more universal than the goats that it is counting.

Your combination of these two ideas is perfectly reasonable, since I think it&#039;s futile to really debate which is correct, and for practical purposes better to remember that mathematics both connects us to and allows us to understand the universe, while in fact being totally a construct of human minds.

Euclid was certainly seeking universal truths in his explorations of geometry, but mathematicians were never quite at ease with his notion that parallel lines should NEVER interesect. It turns out that if you assume they do not, you have a geometry that is appropriate in small flat surfaces, and if you assume they must eventually, you have a geometry that is appropriate for things on the scale of the solar system or bigger. You could argue that the latter is inherently true, or you could argue that both are just good descriptions of the systems that they observe, and you&#039;d probably be right either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;ve actually brushed up against two competing philosophies of mathematics here. When you say: &#8220;Mathematics prove the world and the universe we live in to be precise&#8221; you&#8217;re coming close to the Platonic notion of mathematics, in which numbers, and other mathematical concepts exist in some sense as real truths, and our own mathematics simply connects with those truths and their power derives from the fact that they operate in a space that is fundamentally connected to the way the universe operates.</p>
<p>The flip-side to this view of mathematics, which you&#8217;re closer to when you say &#8220;Math has always been and will continue to always be a method to how we perceive the world and how we perceive our place in the world.&#8221; Is that math is simply a construct built on top of what we see, and mathematics is merely the most formal attempt to apply structure to what is a fundamentally unstructured world. In this view, math is seen as not existing in any sense more universal than the goats that it is counting.</p>
<p>Your combination of these two ideas is perfectly reasonable, since I think it&#8217;s futile to really debate which is correct, and for practical purposes better to remember that mathematics both connects us to and allows us to understand the universe, while in fact being totally a construct of human minds.</p>
<p>Euclid was certainly seeking universal truths in his explorations of geometry, but mathematicians were never quite at ease with his notion that parallel lines should NEVER interesect. It turns out that if you assume they do not, you have a geometry that is appropriate in small flat surfaces, and if you assume they must eventually, you have a geometry that is appropriate for things on the scale of the solar system or bigger. You could argue that the latter is inherently true, or you could argue that both are just good descriptions of the systems that they observe, and you&#8217;d probably be right either way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who Says We Cant Dance While We Work? by LV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this what you boys do without me there?  I do think you are missing some Latina flare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what you boys do without me there?  I do think you are missing some Latina flare.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to see all the Oregon places in this advertisement.</description>
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		<dc:creator>kamal shekaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, hope you are doing great today  Would you be interested in web development, web design, E-commerce, Cold fusion, CMS (specialized in Joomla/Drupal/Wordpress), Frame works (Specialized in Zend/CodeIgntier/CAKE PHP) and software development at $7/hour? We are interested in sending you the samples.

Thanks</description>
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<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Million Dollar Businesses Have to Start Somewhere by LV</title>
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		<description>This is hilarious.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Negotiating Tips by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Tim! you keep em coming too, you are going to be huge... your stuff is amazing.</description>
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		<description>OP, keep the videos coming and I like this background on your website!</description>
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		<description>hell yeah Olin.  I love seeing your passion for this, I know you guys are going to be huge. Good luck brother, God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hell yeah Olin.  I love seeing your passion for this, I know you guys are going to be huge. Good luck brother, God bless.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 04:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glass bottles full of whiskey are simply sand, water and distilled vegetable concentrate. Except, of course, for the plastic cap. That plastic cap is the only thing holding me back from drinking more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glass bottles full of whiskey are simply sand, water and distilled vegetable concentrate. Except, of course, for the plastic cap. That plastic cap is the only thing holding me back from drinking more.</p>
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